Ben Gosden is a pastor and alcoholic. He was the 'cool' pastor, the one who went for a couple of beers. What people didn't see was all the secret drinking. He joins Veronica to discuss how the 12-steps reignited his faith.To learn more, visit the <a href="https://soberful.com/305">show n﻿otes</a>. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

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Rediscovering Grace with Rev. Dr. Ben Gosden

Veronica Valli and Chip Somers are experts on recovery. Chip Somers was most recently described by Russell Brand in his book 'Recovery' as a 'right social liability.'  Together they have been sober for almost 50 years and have a LOT of stories, messes, experience and occasionally helpful advice to share on living in sobriety. They bring all of that (and more) to the Soberful podcast. This podcast is for anyone who wants to live an alcohol-free life, is struggling to get sober or who is in long-term recovery.