Special guest Matthew Panzarino joins the show to talk about WWDC 2020.
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<a href="https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/18/interview-apples-schiller-says-position-on-hey-app-is-unchanged-and-no-rules-changes-are-imminent/">Panzarino's interview with Phil Schiller on Hey's rejection from the App Store</a>.</li>
<li>“<a href="https://daringfireball.net/2020/06/the_talk_show_wwdc_2020">The Talk Show Remote From WWDC 2020, With Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak</a>”.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2020/">Apple’s WWDC 2020 keynote</a>.</li>
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This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

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