In this episode, Joel and Chad interview Jason Putnam, Chief Revenue Officer at Plum, about the flaws of skills-based hiring and the future of work. They discuss the challenges of becoming a skills-based organization, the importance of soft skills in hiring and promotion decisions, and the need for clean and comprehensive data to drive talent management. They also touch on the role of credentialing and the potential demise of the traditional resume. Overall, the conversation explores the evolving landscape of talent acquisition and management in the face of rapid technological advancements.Chapters00:00 - Introduction and Welcome02:13 - The Flaws of Skills-Based Hiring06:10 - The Challenges of Creating a Foundational Base for Skills-Based Hiring09:24 - The Integration of Talent Acquisition and Talent Management13:00 - The Importance of Transparency and Internal Mobility15:09 - The Role of Credentialing and Ongoing Learning24:28 - Optimism and Pessimism about the Future of Work Keywordsskills-based hiring, future of work, soft skills, data, credentialing, resume, talent acquisition, talent management, AI, upskilling

The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Skills-Based Hiring is a Mirage w/ Jason Putnam

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.