Chris and guest host Lisa Hathaway retire once again to the Oasis in Moab to explore the deep psychological underpinnings behind secret cliffs.  Necessary evil or just the realm of egotistical dickheads? Turns out it can all be explained by lewd metaphors involving blossoming sexuality.

The Enormocast: the climbing podcast

Episode 2: Take Your Secret and Shove It

With 35 years of climbing experience and going on 14 years behind the mic, Chris Kalous brings interviews, tributes, discussion, tears, and lots of laughs from the full breadth of the climbing zeitgeist. Rock climbing, bigwall (big wall?) climbing, alpinism, ice climbing, bouldering, and competition climbing. If it’s climbing related, it’s here. In the words of Alex Honnold, “If you are a climber, you pretty much have to do the Enormocast.”