Daughter-father combo, Jemma and Shane Clifton, have both gone through large life transitions, Jemma's around gender, and Shane's around disability. Both have been long processes of change, and they have been a support for one another in their transitional journeys.  Jemma and Shane run a podcast called the Change podcast, which follows Jemma's gender affirmation transition, as she embraces who she is as a transgender woman. It is available on all podcasting platforms, and was the catalyst for my inviting them into conversation. We talk about their podcast, why they chose to take this journey public, and what sort of feedback they are getting. We talk about Shane's accident and how that has affected life as he lives with quadriplegia, and also what that was like for Jemma as a teenager seeing her dad on that life altering journey.  This is a powerful conversation with two beautiful humans.  Find the Change Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts.  ___ Connect with me at downtoearthconversations.com or at: Facebook: facebook.com/downtoearth.conversations  Instagram: @downtoearth.conversations Email: downtoearth.conversations@gmail.com   Music by Strahan: Spotify: Strahan Facebook: facebook.com/StrahanMusic or facebook.com/commonerscommunion Instagram: @strahanmusic or @commoners_communion