Joel McKerrow is an award winning writer, speaker, educator, artist, and one of Australia’s most successful, internationally touring, performance poets. He is the artist ambassador for Tearfund Australia, and a big part of The Justice Conference in Australia. In this conversation we talk about his creativity, how that connects with his spirituality which has changed over the years, how he got involved in issues of justice, and so much more.  We even listen to one of his poems, released earlier this year.  He is inspiring, thought provoking, and is a totally relatable, down to earth human being.   Check out Joel's creativity at joelmckerrow.com including his exhibition 'Human'. Find him on Facebook or Instagram For Joel's poems head to Spotify or Youtube And find "The Deep Place: On Spirituality and Creativity" podcast on Spotify or where you listen to podcasts.  ___ Connect with me at downtoearthconversations.com or at: Facebook: facebook.com/downtoearth.conversations  Instagram: @downtoearth.conversations Email: downtoearth.conversations@gmail.com   Music by Strahan: Spotify: Strahan Facebook: facebook.com/StrahanMusic  or  facebook.com/commonerscommunion Instagram: @strahanmusic  or  @commoners_communion