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Independent Minded

Safari Room

Independent Minded is a podcast where DIY music professionals, indie artists, and pop culture icons tell their origin stories, talk about inspirations, commitment to craft, and struggles and triumphs in the entertainment biz.  Hosted and produced by Ron Scalzo, an indie musician with an independent record label of his own, Bald Freak Music.