Gaby talks to education superstar Zakiya Smith Ellis, a millennial who's also the Secretary of Higher Education for New Jersey. They talk about how college debt has gotten so out of hand...making community college free... the tricky things universities do to make students feel like they're getting a "deal" on tuition... and the freedom of giving up on a "dream school". 
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A Thousand Natural Shocks With Gabe S. Dunn

Student Loan Advice from NJ Secretary of Higher Ed Zakiya Smith Ellis

After years of attempting to "girlboss" his way out of systemic class divide, Gabriel Shane Dunn, now a trans man and veteran podcaster, relaunches his show, “Bad With Money,” with a furious, funny, and deeply personal exploration of surviving our capitalist hellscape. Ditching conventional finance advice, “A Thousand Natural Shocks,” is a companion show to Gabe’s thriving newsletter of the same name. This isn't just about money; it's about breaking free from the individualistic lies and fighting for collective liberation. Capitalism is killing us. The police state is killing us. Fascism is killing us. But we can no longer feel helpl...